Q What would people who only know you in a professional
capacity be most surprised to learn
People might be
surprised to learn that I have a pretty
large passion for wine. Not only have
we consulted in the wine space, which
has been very personally and
professionally gratifying, but I also
have a local winery where I help
annually with harvesting, crushing,
and bottling. I’ve even been able to
procure some custom, private label
Arch + Beam wine as a result of that.
It’s good for marketing and fun, too.
I have a bad habit of not being able
to say no to good wine, so I have an
abundance of it because it doesn’t
go bad. I wasn’t shocked when
my daughter majored in wine and
viticulture, which is pretty exciting.
Q What items are on your bucket list?
It is a long list, with
different family members and
different places. I have Australia with
my wife. Tustin wine country with my
daughter, the wine/viticulture major. I
have zip lining in a Costa Rica with
my other adventurous daughter. Then
playing golf at Augusta National or St.
Andrews with my son, who’s played
Q You’re keeping it all in the family. Now, all you have to do is get them
all through college so that you can
I have one out and two
halfway, so we’re getting there. Then the
bucket list becomes a little more doable.
I remember when I was younger
watching older people who were
putting kids through college. I was
making entry-level salary, thinking,
"They’ve got kids in college. They’ve
got a house. How the heck do they
do it?" It’s what you strive to be. You
think, “OK, people are really making
successful careers out of this.”
Q Exactly, and you have to choose your priorities.
I still get grief at home
because I do like to get good wine. My
wife will laugh. My friend from the
winery was at my house Friday night,
so I opened a bottle of wine. It’s only a
four- or five-year-old pinot that was
highly rated, a wine of the year. I keep
a log of everything. I paid $64 for the
bottle. The current retail is about $125.
I said, “Look, I paid $64 for a $125 bottle
of wine. That’s a great turnaround!” My
wife then looked at me and said, “Yes,
but you still drank it!” J
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