So, it’s always my passion to teach, and that’s
also how I manage engagements—knowledge
sharing, knowledge transfer, and teaching—
because I know that I need to learn, too.
HADIWIJAYA And that variable is
human. The numbers will say 1 + 1 = 2,
but human emotion will say 1 + 1 = 0.
Q And sometimes, like you said, they’re not happy to see you
coming in, so they’re not always the
most cooperative people, are they?
HADI WIJAYA That’s true for
management, stakeholders, vendors—all
kinds of different people with their own
Q What role has TMA played in your career?
HADI WIJAYA I wasn’t really involved
in TMA until I joined CRG Partners. I
think TMA serves two purposes for its
members, as everybody knows. First, it
provides a network. As I became more
active in TMA, I was able to leverage it to
gain new contacts. I started the NextGen
initiative in Dallas with Matt Lupton and
Kelly McDonald. We were able to host
events and invite people beyond the
turnaround professional network, such
as private equity professionals and
lenders. Being active and hosting events
create reasons to touch base with your
contacts. “Hey, we’re hosting this event.
Why don’t you plan to attend? If you
can’t make it, let’s schedule lunch to
And the second purpose is the
knowledge base. Whenever you get
together, you meet your competitors
and discuss aspects of an engagement.
I am fairly open about what I learned
about the case, and I usually get a similar
response as well. So it’s mutual learning.
Q What do you do outside the office? What are you passionate about?
HADIWIJAYA Right now, it’s all about
the kids, so I guess I’m passionate
about my kids. I like to travel. When our
kids were babies, we actually took a trip
to Europe. Imagine hauling a double
stroller with two kids—one baby and
one toddler—at the Hermitage museum
in St. Petersburg, Russia.
I like to try different food as well, because
I think food defines the culture and the
people. Like my favorite TV host, Andrew
Zimmern with “Bizarre Foods, says: “If
it looks good, eat it.” Alongside overseas
travel, we are kept busy with the kids on
a weekly basis—birthday parties, soccer
practice, softball practice, and things like
that. It’s just really enjoyable when you
go home over the weekend and just be
with your kids and see them happy.
Q It’s a whole new world to them. It’s kind of fun to see things through
their eyes. What might people who only
know you in your professional capacity
be most surprised to learn about you?
HADI WIJAYA I’m from Indonesia, and
a majority of my extended family still
lives there. A lot of people don’t know
that I have a very large extended family
back home. My mother had 10 siblings,
and her eldest brother is old enough to
be her dad as well. So I have nephews
and nieces who are actually older than
me. On his side, my father has seven
siblings. So whenever we have family
gathering, I probably have about 50
direct cousins. If you see the movie “My
Big Fat Greek Wedding,” it’s like my
extended family gatherings at home.
Q That must be a lot of fun.
HADI WIJAYA Yes, it is a lot of fun. It’s
a lot of people.
Q What about you? How many siblings do you have?
HADI WIJAYA I have two siblings, and
the three of us are here in the States.
Q Something else you have mentioned is that you hoped
someday to be a college professor. Did I
understand that correctly?
HADI WIJAYA Yes, that’s correct.
Teaching is always my passion.
Knowledge transfer, teaching—that’s
how we as humans make the world
better. That’s my view. At TMA, I wrote
the section on cash flow management in
the Body of Knowledge. I’ve written
articles in the Journal of Corporate
Renewal. I’m the chairing University
Relations for the Dallas Chapter, so
therefore I get the chance to develop
relationships with the universities
around the DFW area. I built a workshop
for MBA students. I mentored the MBA
student who won the Carl Marks Student
Paper Award back in 2011. I’ve developed
a cash flow class used at Deloitte CRG.
So, it’s always my passion to teach, and
that’s also how I manage engagements—
knowledge sharing, knowledge transfer,
and teaching—because I know that I
need to learn, too.
Q What items are at the top of your personal bucket list?
HADI WIJAYA I mentioned that I like to
travel. The one destination that I would
like to see is the pyramids of Giza,
particularly the Great Pyramid, because
it’s so old. Some people say it’s 4,000 years
old, some people say it’s 10,000 years old.
There are even some people who doubt
that human beings built it. It’s just
amazing to see there’s something so old
that’s like a mystery of history on Earth.
Q Are there any other sites that you have your sights on?
HADI WIJAYA Another place I’d like to
travel is China, particularly to see the
Great Wall and the Terracotta Army. A little
history 101: the two destinations were
built by one man’s ambition, the First
Emperor. On a more personal note, since
I am Chinese by ethnicity, I want to stop
by my ancestral village in Fujian, China, to
see where my great-grandparents lived
before they boarded a boat with virtually
nothing except clothes they wore to come
to Indonesia about 100 years ago. J