build skills and competencies. The
chapter structure gave me the chance to
volunteer on committees, which
ultimately led to my being offered a
board position in Northern California
and introduced me to the team of
professionals that I work with today.
What I learned from the very beginning
was the importance of getting involved
in committees. A few of us started the
Future Leaders Committee in the late
1990s, a TMA subcommittee, which
basically morphed over the years into
the NextGen program. We developed
a lot of the concepts for NextGen,
but we tried to drive it nationally into
the chapters. It was not as successful
doing it that way. Once they were able
to flip the approach on its head and
drive it from chapters back up into
TMA Global, that’s how it’s become, in
my opinion, as successful as it has.
Shortly after I joined TMA, I met a lot of
people and expressed a real interest in
turnarounds, so they got me involved.
After about a year, I started helping on
a national committee, working with
various senior leaders in the industry.
This quickly got me introduced around.
I’m passionate about TMA. I belong to
quite a few associations, but I’m only
really active in a couple, and TMA is the
one I’m most active in. I really believe in
what we do as an association. It’s been
a critical part of my career. It has really
helped guide me and provide me with
a lot of support as I’ve gone through
this process, which is continuing. I
view myself still as a student of the art
and science of turnaround, so I look
forward to just continuing this path.
turnaround and restructuring field,
it is also a good differentiator.
Make a plan, but be flexible. The path
into turnaround and restructuring can
come from a lot of different places,
and sometimes you can’t control the
timing. Many years ago, I made a list of
experiences, skills, and types of clients
that I would need to be successful in
turnaround and restructuring. I’ve tried
to stay flexible and not get too caught up
in the order I do them. As I check them
off, I know it is a work in progress that I
hope to continue for my entire career.
Q What are you passionate about outside of the office?
My family, for sure. I am also
an IFR rated private pilot and love being
in the air flying, just about anywhere. As
president of our local education
foundation, I believe strongly that we
need to invest in our kids today to have a
strong society tomorrow. I’ve swum
across San Francisco Bay twice and, with
my kids, am an avid San Francisco
Q What items are at the top of your personal “bucket list?”
Pilot a fighter jet, do a couple
of barrel rolls, and pray I don’t throw up.
Drive meaningful innovation in public
education. We, as a country, are going
to lose our competitive advantage
20 years from now because of,
frankly, the poor job that we’re doing
educating our young people today.
We need to come up with a different
way to fund education and a more
innovative way to deliver education.
Given that I live in Silicon Valley, I’m
very interested in the intersection
between technology and education.
We need to help different types of
kids with different learning styles get
matched with the education approach
that fits best with the way that they
learn. That’s what I mean by innovation.
I don’t need to invent it; I just hope to
improve upon the great ideas of others.
Finally, I would like to live in Africa
for awhile after I retire. Africa is an
absolutely gorgeous continent. There
are some wonderful countries and
beautiful people there, and obviously,
through my daughter, I have a love
for and a connection to Africa. J
Q What advice do you have for someone who is new to the
industry or is thinking about getting
into the industry?
Call your TMA chapter
president and get on a committee. The
best way to get referrals is to work with
others on a committee, where they can
learn what you are all about in a low-risk
setting. You can’t expect to just show up
to a couple of networking sessions and
get business. You’ve got to put some
work in first, and besides, it’s fun.
Get credentialed. I’m a big
believer in building competency
through certification programs.
Besides the obvious benefit to my
technical knowledge about the